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    30 Spline Long Install-Jy Dog

    Installing the 30-splines into the front of the samurai...


    Here's a pic of Ben starting to take the hub off....



    And here's the hub coming off....



    Here's Luke taking off the drivers side Hub....Obviously, I broke them loose and then let the boys take them off.



    The old ones are out and ready to be wrapped up to take along as spares for Larry.



    A shot of the new Longfield 30 spline 300m axle and birf....Here's a chart to see how tuff they are! http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/graph.html



    Here's Ben installing the passenger side Longfield after I spent about 5 minutes grinding the housing with a die grinder and stone....basicly just cleaned up some spots per the directions given from Bobby Long. You could easily put a stone in a drill and do the same thing with the casting burrs. The 30 spline longs are slightly bigger than stock and it is important to make sure the casting is cleaned up so nothing rubs. Looks like we have a safety infraction going on with the safety glasses....Typical employees.....You spend good money for safety glasses and they wear them on their head....





    Here's a quick shot of David changing the Transmission fluid while we were at it.



    I'll post up after I get back next week how the 30-spliners hold up....I intend to be a little ruff on em!
    Steve Stroud
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    You'll be happy with the 30 splines. They will take a beating. I have heard of our buddies in WV breaking at least 2 sets of 30 splines so they are not as unbreakable as claimed. They do move your weak link to the R&P. Buddy broke a front 4.10 this weekend, longs good.

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    nice pit crew you've got there. I wish my dad would have had a truck to work on when I was their age.

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    Yeah.... They have a good time messing with it....

    They always want to do something to it, so I put them to work washing it when we get back from a ride.....

    So far the longs have held up well....I have had a few situations where I have been on the gas hard with the wheels at or near full lock..... No problems.....

    I'm heading to Harlan in a couple of days....They are getting rain down there right now, so stuff that is usually crawalable will now take momentum and lots of skinny pedal....

    I'll report back periodically.
    Steve Stroud
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    4-link upper triangulated rear/ 3-link front
    5.0 Ford/C6/bw 1356 doubler/np205 twin sticked
    38.5 TSL SX
    H1 Double Beadlocked Rims

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    "I live my life one trail at a time!" ............Ben Stroud

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    Harlan is very slimey right now, lots of rev limiter action.
    "Nitrous is like a Hot Chick with an std, you know you want to hit it, but you are afraid of the consequences!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Peter View Post
    Harlan is very slimey right now, lots of rev limiter action.
    Steve Stroud
    1987 Ford Samurai "Junkyard Dog"
    14 bolt rear welded / Hp 60 front air locker / 5.38 gears
    4-link upper triangulated rear/ 3-link front
    5.0 Ford/C6/bw 1356 doubler/np205 twin sticked
    38.5 TSL SX
    H1 Double Beadlocked Rims

    "Don't hate the player......Hate the game!!!!!"

    "I live my life one trail at a time!" ............Ben Stroud

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    Great pics and involvement of the boys.

    Speaking of safety, I don't see pics of jack stands anywhere. Makes me nervous.

    Another thought - when I tried to take the wheels off my 4rnr with spacers the first time several of the studs turned in the aluminum. So I am avoiding any impact usage on the new ones.

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    I can see a jackstand in every picture except the ones with the longfields on the floor and the one where David is changing the Transmission fluid. - mike

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    Good eye Mike.

    Ed,

    There are jackstands under the axle at all times... If you can't see it in the pic, look closer....they are there.

    I do all the jacking and placing of jack stands...once it is safe, I will closely monitor any help the boys are involved in.

    I appreciate the concern, though....
    Steve Stroud
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    4-link upper triangulated rear/ 3-link front
    5.0 Ford/C6/bw 1356 doubler/np205 twin sticked
    38.5 TSL SX
    H1 Double Beadlocked Rims

    "Don't hate the player......Hate the game!!!!!"

    "I live my life one trail at a time!" ............Ben Stroud

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    Those are some cool pics. How old are your boys? Mine is 7 and although he loves 4x4's he's not patient enough to crank wrenches yet. Give him a screwdriver and he can do some damage though.

    On second thought...maybe it's me that don't have the patients with him????
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    David is 9
    Ben is 7
    Luke is 5

    (Jesse is 3 and Lilly is 1 who are not shown here.)



    Got back from Harlan....Still impressed with the Longs.....

    Coming out of the top of a certain rock garden took 8 Full Throttle assaults to get it(Larry has a short little clip of the last few seconds of it that I will put up in the trail report)..... I finally got it by matting the throttle and turning the front wheels sharply at the same time...

    Larry is running the old school 27 spline ringed and treated longs and those are holding up, as well.

    I will have a trail report up some time today or tomorrow(unless things get crazy at work again)

    I had an absolute blast this past weekend.....It is so cool to be able to use everything the rig has to accomplish an obstacle....Until recently with the addition of the 30-Spline Longfields, I always had in the back of my mind that I was living on borrowed time with the stock birfields, so I often tempered my driving style.

    We also crawled through some rocky climbs that took tight lock to lock turns on the steering and plenty of throttle to bump up over.

    They are expensive, but well worth the money, imo.
    Steve Stroud
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    14 bolt rear welded / Hp 60 front air locker / 5.38 gears
    4-link upper triangulated rear/ 3-link front
    5.0 Ford/C6/bw 1356 doubler/np205 twin sticked
    38.5 TSL SX
    H1 Double Beadlocked Rims

    "Don't hate the player......Hate the game!!!!!"

    "I live my life one trail at a time!" ............Ben Stroud

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    Quote Originally Posted by SES View Post
    They are expensive, but well worth the money, imo.
    They are cheaper than blinging a d44 with warns.

    Are you running a 4cyl third or v6? Just curious.

    I hope to someday have my kids working on my junk as I watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by my toys View Post
    They are cheaper than blinging a d44 with warns.

    Are you running a 4cyl third or v6? Just curious.

    I hope to someday have my kids working on my junk as I watch.
    Still running the 4 cylinder third....

    I carry an extra pumpkin along....I can change a rear out(with help) in about 20 minutes or so.

    The front is a little longer, but still not bad. (I pull the whole knuckle off to slide the shafts out enough to pull the pumpkin...saves time by not pulling the hubs/rotors/spindle)

    So far I have not had any issues.....although I do keep close track to make sure the pinions stay tight.....I'm also using a solid pinion sleeve in place of the crush sleeve which is supposed to help stabilize the pinion much better)
    Steve Stroud
    1987 Ford Samurai "Junkyard Dog"
    14 bolt rear welded / Hp 60 front air locker / 5.38 gears
    4-link upper triangulated rear/ 3-link front
    5.0 Ford/C6/bw 1356 doubler/np205 twin sticked
    38.5 TSL SX
    H1 Double Beadlocked Rims

    "Don't hate the player......Hate the game!!!!!"

    "I live my life one trail at a time!" ............Ben Stroud

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    Quote Originally Posted by SES View Post
    Still running the 4 cylinder third....

    I carry an extra pumpkin along....I can change a rear out(with help) in about 20 minutes or so.

    The front is a little longer, but still not bad. (I pull the whole knuckle off to slide the shafts out enough to pull the pumpkin...saves time by not pulling the hubs/rotors/spindle)

    So far I have not had any issues.....although I do keep close track to make sure the pinions stay tight.....I'm also using a solid pinion sleeve in place of the crush sleeve which is supposed to help stabilize the pinion much better)
    I was wondering whether or not you were using a 4cyl with crush sleeve or solid pinion spacer. Are you running 4:10 or other?
    I'm surprised you haven't broke a R&P with your hp & slip and grip tires. I am almost unhappy with my boggers until it gets ugly, then they are the ticket around here (as long as you are going straight and not off camber)

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    Quote Originally Posted by my toys View Post
    I was wondering whether or not you were using a 4cyl with crush sleeve or solid pinion spacer. Are you running 4:10 or other?
    I'm surprised you haven't broke a R&P with your hp & slip and grip tires. I am almost unhappy with my boggers until it gets ugly, then they are the ticket around here (as long as you are going straight and not off camber)
    Yeah, Ernie and I were crying the blues on the greasy rocks....THE BOGGERS SUCKED!!!

    However, once we got to the muddy stuff they rocked....I actually throttled right up a hill that TSL's ended up taking the bypass on after spending 10 minutes or so getting denied on.

    The theme of the weekend ended up being "throttle".....
    Steve Stroud
    1987 Ford Samurai "Junkyard Dog"
    14 bolt rear welded / Hp 60 front air locker / 5.38 gears
    4-link upper triangulated rear/ 3-link front
    5.0 Ford/C6/bw 1356 doubler/np205 twin sticked
    38.5 TSL SX
    H1 Double Beadlocked Rims

    "Don't hate the player......Hate the game!!!!!"

    "I live my life one trail at a time!" ............Ben Stroud

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